soegaard2
2022-2-2 08:57:13

Wordle 228 4/6

:black_large_square::black_large_square::large_yellow_square::large_yellow_square::black_large_square: :large_yellow_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::large_yellow_square::black_large_square: :black_large_square::black_large_square::large_yellow_square::black_large_square::black_large_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square:


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 09:03:36

Wordle 228 4/6

:black_large_square::black_large_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::black_large_square: :black_large_square::large_green_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square: :black_large_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::black_large_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square:


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 09:27:36

hm, there are still 1874/2135 possible words fitting our two grids


sorawee
2022-2-2 09:27:36

Wordle 228 4/6*

:black_large_square::black_large_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::black_large_square: :black_large_square::black_large_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square: :black_large_square::black_large_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square:


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 09:30:00

1751 with sorawee’s, but I’m not using the fact that’s he’s playing in hard mode, which is important information


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 09:30:40

@sorawee Btw, I find it impressive that you play exclusively in hard mode, have you lost a game yet?


sorawee
2022-2-2 09:31:46

There’s a day that I played and couldn’t think of a word that will fit the constraint, so I took a break and then forgot it.


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 09:33:05

I’m not even sure that counts as failure :smile:


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 09:48:04

Oh, with a 4 additional random tweets, the list is down to 19!


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 10:07:12

Took me 26 tweets to bring it down to 14… weird


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 10:13:35

…down to 9 with 45 tweets and 55 unique clues


soegaard2
2022-2-2 10:25:39

Maybe some of the guesses are the same in your 26 samples? People think alike.


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 10:27:29

Finally \o/ After 86 tweets (from 4 to 6 guesses) and 75 distinct clues, it could reduce the list to a single element (which is indeed the solution) spoiler in thread


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 10:31:49

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laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 10:32:47

These clues are enough to uniquely guess today’s word :smile:


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 10:40:12

yeah, the number of unique clues was growing slowly compared to the number of tweets I was adding


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 11:54:35

Who else hadn’t realized that Bogdan’s profile picture was a λ? :sweat_smile:


sorawee
2022-2-2 15:06:28

> Spoiler in thread yeah, I got thoroughly spoiled by this.


badkins
2022-2-2 15:16:14

That is interesting. I’m curious to see where it goes. Currently, Googling for “high order virtual machine” gives 4 total results :-o


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 16:12:10

The next question is what is the minimum set of such clues that allows to uniquely identify the target word. I’d be surprised if that were not NP-hard.


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 16:14:44

Hm, it may be even worse than NP-hard, because verifying that it’s the smallest set is not even straightforward (i.e. just removing clues one by one is not enough to check minimality)


spdegabrielle
2022-2-2 18:24:50

Free wordle-like games! https://twitter.com/jobrodie/status/1488287955886264320?s=21\|https://twitter.com/jobrodie/status/1488287955886264320?s=21

Would anyone be interested in a solver completion based around one? (Chosen not to have intellectual property issues)


callan.mcgill
2022-2-2 18:51:52

@callan.mcgill has joined the channel


badkins
2022-2-2 21:35:44

I had my solver play <https://www.devangthakkar.com/wordle_archive/?8|an old Wordle> from an archive I found on Stephen’s link above. I think the programs choices are the least human-like I’ve seen from it thus far.


badkins
2022-2-2 21:36:06

cares manly lawin naval &lt;- correct


badkins
2022-2-2 21:36:19

(hard mode)


badkins
2022-2-2 21:52:22

This is a good one “adversarial wordle” https://qntm.org/files/absurdle/absurdle.html\|Absurdle


soegaard2
2022-2-2 22:01:29

Absurdle 10/∞

:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::large_yellow_square::large_yellow_square: :white_large_square::large_yellow_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :large_yellow_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square:


soegaard2
2022-2-2 22:01:59

The FAQ says the best possible is 4 attempts.


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 22:09:54

Absurdle 8/∞

:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square: :large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square:


soegaard2
2022-2-2 22:12:27

Absurdle 7/∞

:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::large_yellow_square::large_yellow_square: :white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square: :large_green_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square:


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 22:20:24

Absurdle 7/∞

:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square:


badkins
2022-2-2 22:20:58

I did it a couple times with my program. 7 guesses for both, and the same answer - probably because my solver is doing something similar to Absurdle statistically.


soegaard2
2022-2-2 22:21:34

Laurent must have a good first guess - since he can force a letter already on the second guess.


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 22:23:24

Absurdle 6/∞

:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square:


badkins
2022-2-2 22:23:35

Absurdle 6/∞

:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square: I think hard mode is hard for Absurdle :)


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 22:23:35

With a little backtracking though


badkins
2022-2-2 22:24:22

Easy mode would gain info much more quickly I think. I’m still considering doing an easy mode solver.


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 22:33:48

Absurdle 5/∞

:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :large_yellow_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square: With the help of my solver


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 22:35:17

Absurdle 5/∞

:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::large_green_square::large_yellow_square::white_large_square::large_green_square: :large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square::large_green_square: same, in hard mode


badkins
2022-2-2 22:35:50

<https://www.poirrier.ca/notes/wordle-optimal/|Wordle-solving state of the art: all optimality results so far> :)


laurent.orseau
2022-2-2 22:43:31

~My best average so far is 3.775 guesses per word. Still some way to go, but at the same time it’s a greedy solver, so there’s still room for improvement.~ Oh wait, no, it’s actually 3.48! Rank 35 on the https://freshman.dev/wordle/#/leaderboard\|leaderboard (if words from the allowed list can be used, otherwise it’s 3.52)